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No. 1 Posted on Aug 23, 2006 10:30 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
is it a good suspension system?


Is it better than pearls I.S.S?



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No. 2 Posted on Aug 23, 2006 11:33 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
I'll put it this way:

Optimounts come on Masters, Masterworks and Reference kits; the ISS ships on Exports.



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No. 3 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 5:23 AM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Well...they used to ship Masters with ISS. Now it's new and improved.

Personally I never liked the ISS too much. Some years ago I was putting some drums together and was planning on using a RIMS mount. The store didn't have a RIMS but they did have the then-new ISS. so I bought one. It worked pretty well. The drums have a bit of wobble or bounce, more so than with RIMS. I never liked the way they clamped on the rim. Several occasions, the ISS kind of just popped off the drum. Never while I was playing it, but when I was setting up and the drum was like, sitting on the floor and I go to pick it up and the thing just kind of fell off.
Never happened while I was playing it, I think thw weight of the drum actually helps keep it on there.
Plus I heard a lot of internet nattering about how it would warp your hoops, but never had that happen (lots of chatter about YESS mounts stressing shells too, but I never heard of it actually happening. )

I think it's a pretty good lower cost no hole drilling system that would be cool especially if you were already using 7/8ths inch pipe, a la Pearl mounts to mount your drums.
If you had a choice, I think the optis would be much better. I personally have not used kits with opti mounts but they look much more substantial.

I have used RIMS since they came out in the 80's. On some drums, they open up the sound a bit. Great in a real close miked studio scrutinization situation. Overall though in general use, suspension mounting is a lot of hoo ha.
Drums can work great without them. If you were building a kit, or had NO mounting system on there, it's a good way to go. Spending the $$ to put it on an existing system, changing out the old one, you enter the land of diminishing returns pretty quickly.



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No. 4 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 6:01 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Very good review Moneyowen.
I haven't used any of them, but I've read a lotWink. It is said that Optimounts are sturdier, and your drums won't wobble that much. JD states that they are the best "no shell touching" mounts, he can give a much better hands on opinion.
I use RIMS, and my only complain is when changing and tuning the batter head, it can be a pain in the butt; other than that, they work great. I combine RIMS with Pearl's tom mounting bracket and unilock tom arms. IMO, Pearls builds one of the best hardware pieces out there.
Bottom line is, if I had optimounts available down here, I would definately buy them.
Just my opinion.
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No. 5 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 8:14 AM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
I converted to Optimounts a while back, previously having the I.S.S. mounts.

What I like about the Optimounts is the fact that they mount to the top AND bottom of the drum. My largest rack tom is a 15"x12", thus fairly heavy as rack toms go. While I never had any problem with the I.S.S. mounts at any time, I just feel the Optimounts give better support, and wobble much less.

I guess the downside is that you lose some freedom in placement of the mount on the drum. The Optimounts are attached to the lugs / tension rods. Which means you can attach them to any set of tension rods, but you can't slide them around say, 1/4" or so if you wanted, like you can the I.S.S. mounts.

I haven't found this to be a negative, and I prefer the added stability / security, but this could possibly be a concern for someone that has to have their toms mounted "just so".




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No. 6 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 8:59 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
I converted to the RIMS system. It was a big improvement over the old style Ludwig mounts.

I have NO problem tuning my drums. You just use a drum tuning key in the normal fashion.

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No. 7 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 9:56 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
StillKicken wrote:
...I have NO problem tuning my drums. You just use a drum tuning key in the normal fashion.

Sherm

LOL ShermBig Smile
The problem I have is not tuning by itself, but to get the rim to reach the lug nut. I don't know if mine are defective, but I have to literally "bend" the RIMS rim, for it to reach.
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No. 8 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 12:00 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
ya that second one you posted looks like it would bend the hoop if you really were rockin hard

i have always thought the that first one of a good design

(they keeps these pearl mounting system in stores???) damn i should have looked before i ordered the "rims" ones



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No. 9 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 12:10 PM Profile | PM | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
the thing is that I have a pearl exr with the ISS system, I just wanted your opinnion about the suspension systems


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No. 10 Posted on Aug 24, 2006 3:41 PM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
Nico wrote:
LOL ShermBig Smile
The problem I have is not tuning by itself, but to get the rim to reach the lug nut. I don't know if mine are defective, but I have to literally "bend" the RIMS rim, for it to reach.
Cheers!


Sorry, I was hoping you would take that as a joke!

You are right you do have to bend the RIMS in some cases. The first instruction sheet I read did not mention bending (probably and older version) on another sheet out of another box it did state that some bending may be necessary. Not sure but I think my 10" needed a slight adjustment.

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No. 11 Posted on Aug 25, 2006 5:40 AM Profile | PM | Email | Quote | Search | Copy | Favorite
StillKicken wrote:
Sorry, I was hoping you would take that as a joke!

Sherm

No prob Sherm. I didSmile
I just wanted to elaborate on the RIMS bending issue.
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